Author: RifleDude
Subject: Leica ER vs Leupold VX-6
Posted: June/15/2014 at 16:45
Why do you repeatedly do that, JG? You recently asked me over at the other forum why you and certain individuals here butt heads, and the highlighted statement above is a big reason why, my friend.
Do you think you're the only guy who hunts a lot and uses lots of optics? Why do you feel the need to be condescending to others who have a different point of view than yours? I responded to your post respectfully and in a matter-of fact, non- confrontational manner. You have no idea how many guns and optics I own or how much time I spend in the field with them. How do you know what I can and can't "fathom?"
How do you know this? Are you privy to their sales numbers? Have you taken a poll? Besides myself, I know quite a few people who bought one or more of them, at least 10 OT members. For argument's sake, even if your statement were true...so what? We're talking about current pricing realities anyway. Bugatti doesn't sell a lot of cars either. Leica doesn't have the market exposure or the long history of making riflescopes like Leupold does. How does that in any way reflect on the virtues of the product? I don't take a poll on what other people like or dislike before spending my own money on stuff I like, and what others like or dislike has little to no influence on what I buy. How about you?
That's all fine and good, but the current prices on the 2.5-10X42 ERs (non-illuminated) are LESS than the 2-12X42 VX-6, due to the fact they are being phased out in favor of the ERi versions. That is what the subject of this thread is about; current pricing. Even before the ERi series was introduced, I paid nowhere near $1500 for both of my ERs.
Even if the 2.5-10X42 ER in question was still priced at $1500, I don't believe the Meopta Meostar is quite as good in several respects (mainly because the Meostar scopes of comparable magnification are much longer, heavier, and have no hydrophobic coatings), but that's my opinion, based on the things that are important to me. I'm glad you like your Meoptas; they are great optics for certain!
I agree 100%...
...and so does everyone else in this thread. Did someone imply otherwise?
Marine asked for opinions. I offered mine, as did you.
Subject: Leica ER vs Leupold VX-6
Posted: June/15/2014 at 16:45
 JGRaider wrote:If you've never hunted a VX6 then you can't fathom what I'm talking about when I say "most user friendly variable ever". |
Why do you repeatedly do that, JG? You recently asked me over at the other forum why you and certain individuals here butt heads, and the highlighted statement above is a big reason why, my friend.
Do you think you're the only guy who hunts a lot and uses lots of optics? Why do you feel the need to be condescending to others who have a different point of view than yours? I responded to your post respectfully and in a matter-of fact, non- confrontational manner. You have no idea how many guns and optics I own or how much time I spend in the field with them. How do you know what I can and can't "fathom?"
| JGRaider wrote: The only way Leica sells any of their scopes is by heavily discounting them |
How do you know this? Are you privy to their sales numbers? Have you taken a poll? Besides myself, I know quite a few people who bought one or more of them, at least 10 OT members. For argument's sake, even if your statement were true...so what? We're talking about current pricing realities anyway. Bugatti doesn't sell a lot of cars either. Leica doesn't have the market exposure or the long history of making riflescopes like Leupold does. How does that in any way reflect on the virtues of the product? I don't take a poll on what other people like or dislike before spending my own money on stuff I like, and what others like or dislike has little to no influence on what I buy. How about you?
| JGRaider wrote: and their not worth the extra $500 IMO. If I were buying a $1500 scope it would have "Meopta" stamped on it. |
That's all fine and good, but the current prices on the 2.5-10X42 ERs (non-illuminated) are LESS than the 2-12X42 VX-6, due to the fact they are being phased out in favor of the ERi versions. That is what the subject of this thread is about; current pricing. Even before the ERi series was introduced, I paid nowhere near $1500 for both of my ERs.
Even if the 2.5-10X42 ER in question was still priced at $1500, I don't believe the Meopta Meostar is quite as good in several respects (mainly because the Meostar scopes of comparable magnification are much longer, heavier, and have no hydrophobic coatings), but that's my opinion, based on the things that are important to me. I'm glad you like your Meoptas; they are great optics for certain!
| JGRaider wrote: I think a guy should buy whatever he wants, for whatever reason he wants to. |
I agree 100%...
...and so does everyone else in this thread. Did someone imply otherwise?
Marine asked for opinions. I offered mine, as did you.