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Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Kickboxer
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 11:20

Originally posted by Marine24 Marine24 wrote:

378 Wby.  I shot the rifle once and not for the faint of heart.  Definitely leaves an impression mentally and physically compared to the 375 H&H.

I'm really a big fan of the 3-10x Z3.  Picked one up on the Sample List that is mounted on my 7mm-08  and see there is another one out there.  Has the BRX reticle, which is definitely thin and unnecessary for the ranges I would be shooting at.  Maybe a nice 4A version will post.

My best all around, most loved deer rifle is a 458 Lott Ruger #1.  It has a 4x Conquest on it... very rough on variables. 

However, those scopes SVT mentioned are all viable options. 


Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Cold Trigger Finger
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 13:22

The 1.5-5×20 Leeupold VX lll has been a standard scope on 375 s up here for a long time. The 2-7×32 VX ll also. . The 1 3/4-6 x 36 VX lll worked very well for me also. .
You r planning on having the reciever and bases opened up to the 8×40 screws I hope.
The 375 will destroy a stock if u shoot it alot unless its been bedded and relieved properly. Even my 9.3×64 split its stock when I started pushing 285 gr bullets up to 2700 fps.
There isn't anything wrong with a fixed 4 power on a 375. . My last H+H I had an M8, 3×20 long tube. And it was and last thing I knew it was still working great. That scope has killed over 20 Sitka Blacktails and capsized a bunch of brown bears with the 416 Taylor switch barrel on the rifle.
I put a 1.5-6×40 E dot Burris Signature Select on several rifles. 9.3×64, 416 Rem Mag. , 375 Ruger. . It held up pretty well, which surprised me.
I want to try the 1-6. SWFA SS scope on my 9.3×64 . It will take real good mounting to keep it in place but it would cover most of the hunting bases that rifle will be in.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Cold Trigger Finger
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 13:35

The 3-9 SWFA SS and the 3-15×42 SWFA SS scopes should hold up. . The only thing they don't have is a lighted reticle. But a good flashlight mounted on a pic rail under the barrel will solve that. And a good flashlight is invaluable for rootin a bear out of the brush.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Maverick2
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 13:53

Originally posted by Marine24 Marine24 wrote:

Have my eye on a Remington 798 in 375 H&H.  Need it like a hole in the but one of those iconic calibers/rifles that everyone should have like a Winchester 94, M1 Garand and 1911.

Saw earlier posts on the forum that typically recommends low power variables due the Dangerous Game Rifle role this caliber typically is used for.

Prefer something that will take advantage of its point blank range reach out to ~300 yards with a 5x or higher erector.  Capped turrets since this will be a hunting rifle.

Low end is around 2X with a top end at least 10X with extended/long eye relief of ~4 inches.

Meostar R2 would be a good fit but don't like the 56mm objective.  The Swarovski Z5 line is another option but low end is 3.5x and really don't need 18X as top end.  Z6 is outside my $1500 price range.

Thoughts?

If you like the idea of the Meostar R2 and aren't in a huge hurry, I believe Meopta is releasing a 1.7-10x42 this summer.  The Leica ER 2.5-10x42 would be a nice choice as well -- I've got an ER 3.5-14x42 that I'm probably moving onto my .375 H&H at some point...

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Marine24
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 14:41

Thank you all for the recommendations.  I ended up going the CZ 550 Safari route that has the milled dovetail rail in the receiver.  Makes me wonder how effective rings will be on a rifle like this, but can always get it drilled and tapped.  (CTF:  Pointed noted on the 8x40 screws). 

Doug:  Can you elaborate on your comment "The less mass there is on mounts and scope with a heavy kicking rifle, the better."  Anticipate your point is the more mass on the scope, the more impact and potential for damage to the scope.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: tahqua
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 14:53

Before firing all pieces in the firearm system are at rest. When fired the gun recoils back thus "wanting" to leave the scope behind. A heavier scope is both harder to keep in place in the rings and harder on the bases. In other words, because the scope is heavier, it takes more force to move it in the same direction as recoil.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Marine24
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 14:55

Got it.  Thought that was what you were getting at.  So low power variables are less about aesthetics and more about not destroying your scope or zero.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: DCAMM94
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 15:22

They are also more typical on rifles in the 375 H&H above because other than being really cool, there aren't any animals on this fine continent that you "need" one for.  I will say that I have been going heavier and slower in my old age, both in my own personal attributes and those of the rifles I'm choosing, because (a) I don't like tracking as much as I used to think it was cool, and (b) I don't like bloodshot meat.  With the range most of the animals are shot with with these rifles, not to mention the fact that many times those animals in africa have sharp teeth or feet bigger than your head, you want to be able to pick them up quickly in the scope to be able to get an accurate shot off.  Just my $0.02.  Send a PM to user Glock and ask him what power he uses on his rigs in South Africa and why.  He'll have more experience with the heavy calibers than most all of us, I imagine.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: koshkin
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 17:26

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.

I am testing a Meopta Meostar R2 1-6x24 right now and I think it would be perfect for such a rifle.  6x is enough to reach pretty far out, while that bright illuminated dot at 1x is spectacularly fast.

There are other options of course, depending on your price range, but for $1500 I would be looking at either the Meopta R2 1-6x24 or the Vortex Razor HD 1-6x24.

Next step down would be the Leupold VX-6 1-6x24.

If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.

ILya

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Marine24
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 18:51

I picked up a couple of Meostar 4-16x for my other rifles and am generally pleased.  Prefer the Swarovski Z3, but the differences is subtle.

Like the larger objective on the Meostart R1 1.5-6x42, which has been one of the detractors from the other low power scopes but raises some interesting options in addition to some mentioned above.



Edited by Marine24 - 6 hours 33 minutes ago at 08:27

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: koshkin
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/05/2014 at 23:29

There are no 4-12x scopes in the Meostar line-up. Are you sure those are not Meopro?

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: JGRaider
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 08:25

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.

I am testing a Meopta Meostar R2 1-6x24 right now and I think it would be perfect for such a rifle.  6x is enough to reach pretty far out, while that bright illuminated dot at 1x is spectacularly fast.

There are other options of course, depending on your price range, but for $1500 I would be looking at either the Meopta R2 1-6x24 or the Vortex Razor HD 1-6x24.

Next step down would be the Leupold VX-6 1-6x24.

If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.

ILya


What are your thoughts on the tracking/adjustments on that R2?  Glass as compared to Diaviari's, Z6, S&B?  I'm very interested, as there will be a couple more additions to the R2 lineup a little later this year that really appeal to me. 

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Marine24
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 08:28

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

There are no 4-12x scopes in the Meostar line-up. Are you sure those are not Meopro?

Make that Meostar R1 4-16X44


Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 09:10

Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Before firing all pieces in the firearm system are at rest. When fired the gun recoils back thus "wanting" to leave the scope behind. A heavier scope is both harder to keep in place in the rings and harder on the bases. In other words, because the scope is heavier, it takes more force to move it in the same direction as recoil.



Correct.

IOW... inertia.

Scopes with greater mass means the scope rings have to arrest greater inertia.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 09:18

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.



Me too.

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:


If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.


I second the notion of a good 1.5-6X42 as a "low light" alternative to the 24mm objective scopes, and I'm sure the Meostar is a good one. I've not used the Meostar in the field, but I do have 1.5-6X42s from Zeiss and S&B, and won't ever part with them.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: koshkin
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 11:36

Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

If I were selecting a scope for a 375H&H, I would be looking at something along the lines of 1-4x24, 1-5x24 or 1-6x24.

I am testing a Meopta Meostar R2 1-6x24 right now and I think it would be perfect for such a rifle.  6x is enough to reach pretty far out, while that bright illuminated dot at 1x is spectacularly fast.

There are other options of course, depending on your price range, but for $1500 I would be looking at either the Meopta R2 1-6x24 or the Vortex Razor HD 1-6x24.

Next step down would be the Leupold VX-6 1-6x24.

If you are primarily interested in low light, I would go with the Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-6x42 and not look back.

ILya


What are your thoughts on the tracking/adjustments on that R2?  Glass as compared to Diaviari's, Z6, S&B?  I'm very interested, as there will be a couple more additions to the R2 lineup a little later this year that really appeal to me. 
 
I'll publish my impressions when I am done with the testing.
 
So far, I think Meopta will do very well with this design.
 
ILya
 

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Marine24
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 13:15

Originally posted by Marine24 Marine24 wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

There are no 4-12x scopes in the Meostar line-up. Are you sure those are not Meopro?

Make that Meostar R1 4-16X44


You would think I would know what I have.  It is a Meostart R1 4-12x40 with a number 4 reticle and the other is the plex reticle.

Current product is the 4-16x, but they did have a 4-12 (although not sure how long ago).

http://www.meoptahistory.com/index.php?id=240&removefromcompare=240

Might explain why the price was such a bargain, but no complaints.




Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Maverick2
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 14:57

Have you got a sense of how you'll actually use the .375H&H?  I agree with a lot of the posts,that if you are setting it up as the classic "dangerous game" rifle,something along the 1-4 or 1.5-6  variablemag is a good choice.  If dangerous gameisn't likely on the menu though (and realistically it's not for a lot of us)and the rifle is to be used as more of a general purpose hunting rifle than aspecialized purpose, I tend to agree more with your interest in the 3-12 and4-16 range scopes.  My .375 H&H is my"go to" hunting rifle -- chosen more for the environment I hunt in (heavybrush and timber) than the particular game I'm chasing, so in 90% of my huntingit's overkill for the game animal (typically deer, elk, and moose).  My .375 currently wears a 3-9, and in all myhunts with this rifle, I've never wished for a magnification lower than 3.  Conversely, even though I've never shotanything with this rifle over 75 yds, I HAVE had a number of times when I wishedI had a higher magnification for looking at an animal and trying to distinguishantlers from brush, looking at him at the edge of a timber patch across afield, etc... in order to determine if he's a "shooter" buck or bull ornot.  If I were more of a "meathunter" I wouldn't be as picky, but I tend to be more of a "trophy hunter"and like the ability to study the animal a bit if the opportunity allows, hencethe desire for higher magnifications.  Fortunately,the current trend towards 5x + erector assemblies is opening up a lot of scopeoptions these days, allowing a relatively low mag on the bottom and a relativelyhigh mag range on top.  I don't know ifyour application for your H&H is anything close to mine, but if it is andFWIW, here are my preferences and thoughts when it comes to scoping my .375 "brush"gun:

  • mag range approximating 3-15 -- I'll carry therifle with the scope on 3 and shoot with it that way for "fast" shots,but greatly value the ability to turn up to a higher mag when needed to studyand discern what I'm seeing.   

  • relatively compact and light -- I don't likelarge objectives and tall turrets to snag on things in the timber, and thelighter the scope the better with heavy recoil rifles.

  • good glass -- a good mix of light transmission,contrast, and resolution qualities is a big plus for me in dark timber atdaybreak and dusk.

  • hydrophobic coatings -- hunting season for me isa high precip time, so mist and water on the lens surfaces are a problem.  Walking thru the brush compounds this.  (Any more, I'll tend to buy a scope with aless desirable mag range than give up hydrophobic coating.  That's the main reason I didn't buy a MeoptaR1, and am excited to see the R2 line come out.) 

  • Long eye relief -- I've had enough black eyes inmy lifetime, and don't feel the need to self-inflict one for a hasty shot withthe .375.

 

For the above reasons, I'm planning on re-scoping my .375 inthe next year or so.  I'm playing a bitof a wait and see game on Meopta until the entire R2 line is out, but suspectI'll be moving my Leica 3.5-14x42 over to the .375, as it fits my needs on thisrifle very, very well (and then getting something a bit different for my longerrange, open country hunting rifle).  If Iget the opportunity to take my .375 on a dangerous game hunt (Alaskan brown bearis on my bucket list) then I'll re-evaluate the scope at that time.

 

Good luck shopping -- there's a lot of cool stuff out therein the rifle scope world these days, and more coming down the pike.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Marine24
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 16:02

It will primarily be a take to the range and shoot every once in awhile rifle.  Plus would double as an elk rifle.  The reason for picking up this rifle is more nostalgic than practical need, but with the lighter bullets, works well for a mule deer or elk hunt.

For the latter, I'm using 235gr Barnes TTSX bullets with shots inside of 300 yards, which was why I was leaning more towards the 2.5-10x range of scopes.

I don't envision it filling the role as a DGR, but as you pointed out, if it does, the optics will change.

Rifle Scopes : 375 H&H Scope Options

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Author: Urimaginaryfrnd
Subject: 375 H&H Scope Options
Posted: June/06/2014 at 20:43

I've had a couple of 375 H&H rifles one a browning the other a single shot encore which is very light weight.  I love the caliber to really enjoy it one should reload.  As for scopes for a hunting rifle I believe this makes a lot of sense. I believe that fixed power scopes which have less moving parts tend to be strong reliable optics. With a fixed 6x you will never be on too high of a power to hand hold taking a shot at a game animal.  The dots below center will work well to estimate hold over for a zero of 200  and anything closer and with a little effort on the range you can determine how your selected ammo corresponds to the dots below center for 300 yds 400 yds etc.  This is a very bright scope with a 7mm exit eye pupil which is as good as it gets. I think this would serve you well I can get onto something pretty darn close with a 6x and still make predictable longer range shots using this simple reticle.
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 RiflescopeLong Range DuplexLeupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66820
  • Matte
  • Long Range Duplex
  • 1"
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
  • Eye Relief (in):4.43
$449.95 
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