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Rifle Scopes : help with an old japanese 6x32 bushnell banner

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Author: hph04a
Subject: help with an old japanese 6x32 bushnell banner
Posted: January/25/2014 at 14:04

Ed, thats correct. I don't need the correct one. I've never really trusted those things anyway, just having one that would make turning the dial doable without needle nose pliers would solve my problem. There are some on ebay right now as part of a giant lot, but i'm still hoping another option presents itself. thanks for the pictures, that really helps

Rifle Scopes : help with an old japanese 6x32 bushnell banner

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Author: Son of Ed
Subject: help with an old japanese 6x32 bushnell banner
Posted: January/25/2014 at 16:14

Maybe a scope repair shop has got a few....

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: magshooter1
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 07:08

You might also check out the Vortex Diamondback 2-7x35.  For a lever gun I would stay in the  2-7x32 range.  The Meopta is a very good scope but it would be too big for a Marlin 336 IMO.  My personal 336 wears a VX-II with the #4 reticle.

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: CrunchBerries
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 07:47

Yeah I think 2-7 would be ideal, diamondback seems decent, but I can spend a bit more. Is the VX-2 a decent option then for low light conditions described?

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: cheaptrick
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 07:57

Welcome to Optics Talk.

Posting prices is OK, I guess, but please don't post links to other optics vendors. 

Does the Bushnell have the Rain Guard? That would be a consideration for me. 

Rifle Scopes : Greenhorn and a new CZ 527 bolt .223 scope?

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Author: vortech347
Subject: Greenhorn and a new CZ 527 bolt .223 scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 08:32

I have a 1.5-6 x 36 Bushnell Elite 4200 on my 6.8 AR that I think would be a fine option for what you are looking for.

You can't quite do a true both eyes open shooting with it but you can scan with both eyes open and then just close your other eye when ready to aim and shoot.

Another option in a variable is the Leupold VX 2 1-4.  A buddy has one of them on his 6.8 and it's small, has good optics and has a plain old Duplex reticle in it.  

A fixed power is fine for the longer shots but I personally would prefer a low power variable if you ever think you are going to walking around or shooting at any short ranges.

When I hunt hogs with my 6.8 I usually set my scope to 3x or lower to have a better FOV and better light gathering.  At the ranges we have our blinds/feeders set up there is no need for any more power.

At the range though it's nice to have 6x to do load testing at 100 yds.

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: anweis
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 08:54

I have these two scopes, a 5 year old Conquest 2.5-8x32 and a new Terra 2-7x32. I spent two evenings after sunset and into dark looking through both of them at a brown burlap bag hidden into the woods behind my house. The Conquest is on a Winchester Featherweight 6mm, mounted low with Conetrol rings (as sweet and sleek a deer rig as ever was). The Terra is on a new and light 24" tube muzzleloader (CVA Wolf).    
Here is what i found.
Both scopes are sharp to the edge of the field of view. Both scopes seem to have the same field of view.
The two scopes are equally bright and sharp. Both scopes have the same contrast and color rendition. I did not see differences in glare and flare. They seem equal. I placed my burlap bag right to the west, to test for this. Seing into the glare of sunset is the make or brake test for my optics.  
The Conquest loses some (a bit) of it's sharpness between 7x and 8x. The Terra really sucks as soon as it's crancked past 6x. Its like magic: at 6x the Terra is a Zeiss, at 6.5x and 7x it's a $30 Barska.
Both scopes have an equally comfortable and forgiving "eye box" If i set the two scopes on 3x, pick a target (the burlap bag), close my eyes, thow the rifles to my shoulder, and open my eyes, i find myself aiming comfortably right on target with both eyes open and looking at a bright sharp image. The reticles are identical and equally sharp. The Conquest has 4" eye relief and the Terra has 3.5". It makes no practical difference if mounted to fit. Difference: the Conquest has slightly more of the feeling that i am right there, i forget that i am looking through a tube; the Terra has a bit more of the tube view effect, but just a little. The are both nice to look at and easy to aim with quickly.
I could not tell any difference in low light optical performance. They both worked equally well 35 minutes after sunset looking at the dim, tan colored, bag.  30-35 minutes after sunset i looked through both scopes at 3x and 5x and they were, as far as i could tell, identical.  
The Conquest has much more positive clicks on the adjustment turrets The Terra has softer, mushier clicks. I need to adjust the Terra with care, count the clicks carefully. Also, the Terra has a softer, easier to turn zoom ring. I hope that it does not become even softer and easier to turn than this, with time and use, because it may turn by itself. It's just perfect now.
I shot the "box" with the Terra at 50 yards on Saturday morning. Yes, i know how and can make an inline muzzleloader shoot  0.5" groups bullet after bullet into the same hole at 50 yards. It was too windy for 100 yards. No problem there. The adjustments track true as good as any hunting scope would need.
Only problem i can find so far with the Terra is the large diameter of the ocular assembly tube. It is 1.59-1.60" (40.7-41.0 mm). With the scope mounted in the CVA's medium height mount/rings, the rebounding hammer is pinching a little into the bottom of the power adjustment ring when i fire. I can see 3 little shiny dots of aluminum where the black finish has been worn (opposite to 2x, 3x, and 5x adjustments, which is how i fired) and a little silver shine on the very top end of the hammer. I am not sure if this happens when there is a primer in the breech plug or only if i dry fire. If i slip a piece of paper under the scope and dry fire, the paper is pinched into a little hole. The rifle fires/shoots when loaded just fine and  the scope already has it's 3 new silver dots, so i don't know whether i will do anything about this. The mismatch in distances is tiny, 1 mm at the very most. I might just sand and polish the top of the hammer, there is about 2 mm of metal there at the place where the hammer offset extension is threaded.
Why is the large ocular relevant: In rifles with low bolt throw, no problem. In rifles with high bolt throw and fat bolt handles, the scope may need mounting in high rings, which may alter cheek weld and overall balance and fit of the rifle.    
      

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: CrunchBerries
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 09:17

Thanks for the review, I am paying attention to that terra.. seems to be similar to the elite 2-7 as the 6+ magnification seems to haze out the optic and mess up its ease of use..

However the Zeiss reticle is awesome, so it might be a solid low light candidate.

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: anweis
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 09:46

I would say that this smaller Terra is a very nice scope and worth $350. Just don't expect $2,000 optics. It probably is one of, if not the best 32 mm scope in that price range. I would say that it is as good as but not much better than the Nikon Monarch 2-8x32 that a friend has, but i prefer the Zeiss #20 reticle to the Nikoplex and i am familiar with it as i have it in 3 other scopes. The Nikon Monarch, however, (i have a 1-4x20 with German #4 reticle and a friend has a 2-8x32 with Nikoplex) has a stiffer zoom ring and both scopes have very soft almost loose (annoying, as they sometimes twist out of whack) diopter adjustments.  
 

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: bugsNbows
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 10:24

Nice observations and write-up. Thanks.

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: RifleDude
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 12:17

Thanks for posting your observations on these two scopes!

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: stickbow46
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 13:16

Very nice side by side comparison,thanks for the heads up.........

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: CrunchBerries
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 14:23

Originally posted by anweis anweis wrote:


I would say that this smaller Terra is a very nice scope and worth $350. Just don't expect $2,000 optics. It probably is one of, if not the best 32 mm scope in that price range. I would say that it is as good as but not much better than the Nikon Monarch 2-8x32 that a friend has, but i prefer the Zeiss #20 reticle to the Nikoplex and i am familiar with it as i have it in 3 other scopes. The Nikon Monarch, however, (i have a 1-4x20 with German #4 reticle and a friend has a 2-8x32 with Nikoplex) has a stiffer zoom ring and both scopes have very soft almost loose (annoying, as they sometimes twist out of whack) diopter adjustments.  
 


How would you say the monarch compares to the terra in low light?

Rifle Scopes : Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32

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Author: Son of Ed
Subject: Conquest 2.5-8x32 vs Terra 2-7x32
Posted: January/27/2014 at 18:32

Very informative!!  Thanks!  

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: MBar308
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 19:21

I would look at the Vortex Diamondback as magshooter recommended. If you compare the VX2 and Diamondback side by side I think you'll be surprised.

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: CrunchBerries
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 19:30

Thanks for the input, so the Diamondback is a better choice than the Monarch 3 or Bushnell Elite for low light?

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: MBar308
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 22:01

I have not used the other two scopes you mentioned, hopefully someone else can chime in to better assist you. However I feel that for the price the Diamondback is hard to beat. In MD we are allowed to hunt whitetail 1/2 hr before sunrise, and 1/2 hr passed sunset. My 3-9x40 Diamondback allows me to do so while hunting in heavy brush. Hope that helps.

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: MBar308
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/27/2014 at 22:07

I should add that if I had to choose a variable for use only under the conditions you described, I would opt for the 1.75-5 or 2-7 Diamondback over the 3-9.

Rifle Scopes : Looking for brush hunting scope?

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Author: Urimaginaryfrnd
Subject: Looking for brush hunting scope?
Posted: January/28/2014 at 07:11

I  would go with a 2-7 or a 1-4 the ideal scope choice would be a1-4 Trijicon Accupoint with its tritium + fiber optic illumination but its a lot more money but very worthwhile.
I also very much like Leupolds fixed 6x42 for brush the Heavy Duplex for open longer distances the long range duplex. I find that I can get onto something pretty good up to 6x but more than that wont work for me hand holding the rifle without a rest.  The 6x42 is as bright of an optic in low light as one can get.
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 RiflescopeHeavy DuplexLeupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66810
  • Matte
  • Heavy Duplex
  • 1"
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
$399.95 

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