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Rifle Scopes : 2.5-8x36 VX3 vs 2-7x33 VX2

February 5, 2014, 9:12 am
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Author: Gray
Subject: 2.5-8x36 VX3 vs 2-7x33 VX2
Posted: February/05/2014 at 17:12

I recently purchased the VX-R 4-12 and I am very pleased with it as well.  I also have two 2-7x33 VX-2 scopes that work well also but the VX-R is the ticket and a VX-R 2-7 is next on the purchase list.
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Rifle Scopes : Dedicated Scopes

February 5, 2014, 9:16 am
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Author: Sparky
Subject: Dedicated Scopes
Posted: February/05/2014 at 17:16

I used to explain them, but now I don't.   Head Banger
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Rifle Scopes : Dedicated Scopes

February 5, 2014, 9:49 am
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Author: Rancid Coolaid
Subject: Dedicated Scopes
Posted: February/05/2014 at 17:49

I've used man (custom turrets or "calibrated" turrets - "calibrated", translated  from the Greek for "almost correct."
I have also used custom turrets, they work well if it is your data and nothing changes.
 
Let the guy get it.  When it doesn't work out, get a lightly used scope for a big discount.  After you buy it, say "I told you so."
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 5, 2014, 10:01 am
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Author: Maverick2
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/05/2014 at 18:01

The release of the R2 in the 2.5-15x56 really piqued my interest, as the magnification range fits perfectly with what I'm looking for right now.  The lack of any parallax adjustment, and the limited reticle offerings however, limit its versatility to the point that I'll stick with the R1. 
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Rifle Scopes : Greenhorn and a new CZ 527 bolt .223 scope?

February 5, 2014, 11:39 am
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Author: Canuck Bob
Subject: Greenhorn and a new CZ 527 bolt .223 scope?
Posted: February/05/2014 at 19:39

Thank you all.  I stumbled on a very clean Leupold M8 4X28 scope.  An earlier Compact rimfire model I think.   It seems they were the same platform as the M8 4X32.  The current FXseries has the little ultralight 4X28 as a FX-1 (VX-1 spec) and the standard 4X32 is an FX-2 (Vx-2 spec) and pricier.  I'm looking for the Warne medium rings now.  Being new to scopes I figured to play with this scope and rifle then maybe move it to a rimfire later. 

I've done a lot of research and find most advice very sound above.  I think I need to consider my mission for this rifle before dropping money on a higher end scope.  I don't picture a bunch of group precision shooting or long range gophers.  

The Accupoint 1-4X or a Variable 1-6X that does allow true 1X would be my first choice in a variable.  I want to try one and use it like an optical peep sight.  The reflex sights hold no interest or anything battery powered. For that kind of money a 1-6X24 can be had and that would take care of the occasional need for 6X.  It seems a little foolish to buy a scope that is worth more than the rifle but many guys buy the high end stuff in Alberta it turns out.  The Leupold VX-6 1-6X24 specs out nice but the price is staggering.  Of course the Accupoint is in the same league. The sweet Euro glass does seem noticeably heavier than the above options.  In the real world it will be a long time for me to afford such options.

The Warne rings are just .030 taller than the Milletts and it hardly matters.  The CZ rings are just too tall, kinda looks goofy.  My bolt handle is the new style and there is tons of room with the scopes above for clearance.  
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Rifle Scopes : Night Scope

February 5, 2014, 1:18 pm
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Author: Wired2Tight
Subject: Night Scope
Posted: February/05/2014 at 21:18

Hello,

I want to buy a night vision scope for my Sig Sauer SAM7R AK47. I was just about to push the Buy It Now button when I decided to do some research. Seems as though the Yukon scope I was ready to buy is a piece of crap. My upper price limit is $2000.00 so I'm asking for scope recommendations even if means that I cannot afford a good scope.

Thanks,
Ron
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Rifle Scopes : Night Scope

February 5, 2014, 11:18 pm
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Author: bugsNbows
Subject: Night Scope
Posted: February/06/2014 at 07:18

Perhaps a PM to Ilya Koshkin would yield the type of info you desire???!!!
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Rifle Scopes : Night Scope

February 6, 2014, 12:49 am
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Author: Sgt. D
Subject: Night Scope
Posted: February/06/2014 at 08:49

If you PM Koshkin be sue to provide more detail on what you are lookin. When you say Night vision we generally think IR or Thermal. But if you are thinkin the best glass and low light capability he should be able to help either way. Good Luck and welcome to the OT.
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 6, 2014, 1:27 am
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Author: JGRaider
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/06/2014 at 09:27

The #4, 4C reticle in the Meopta scopes is very impressive.  As good as the R1 is, I think the R2 is going to turn some heads, especially from Swaro Z6 guys. 
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Rifle Scopes : Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42

February 6, 2014, 1:27 am
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Author: Paul Heydenreich
Subject: Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42
Posted: February/06/2014 at 09:27

Hi all,

I just bought my first rifle a  Tikka .308. 
I need some help choosing one of these scopes:
  
Burris full field 6.5-20x50mm
Zeiss Terra 4-12X42mm

They all are in the same price range.
I like the Zeiss but the higher magnification on the other two scopes got me wondering,
I am quite new in this game and probably don't know half as much as you guys Wink.

Thanks,
Paul.


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Rifle Scopes : Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42

February 6, 2014, 1:30 am
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Author: Sparky
Subject: Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42
Posted: February/06/2014 at 09:30

What are you going to use it for, hunting or targets?

What are the minimum and max ranges you will be shooting?

Budget?
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Rifle Scopes : Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42

February 6, 2014, 2:14 am
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Author: Paul Heydenreich
Subject: Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42
Posted: February/06/2014 at 10:14

I won't shoot further than 450 yards  ( 400m) for hunting and for targets.
My budget is about 550$.
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 6, 2014, 2:21 am
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Author: Kickboxer
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/06/2014 at 10:21

Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Kickboxer, what's your take on that Meopta you have?  Is that an R1?  I'm looking forward to the R2's they have coming out this year. 
Yes, it is an R1… one of the best scopes I have, unequaled in its role.  

I think the R2s will be outstanding, as well.


What would you compare the glass in that R1 with?  I was talking to a high ranking Meopta guy last week, and he says ( I know, take it with a grain of salt) that the R2 2.5-15x56 will be the brightest hunting scope on the planet, including Z,L,SW, and S&B.  I personally am guessing it will be splitting hairs, but we'll see. 
 
Meopta R1 glass is better than Zeiss Conquest... not quite Diavari-class.  The R2 is supposed to be better and I tend to believe that.  Meopta, if anything, under promotes its "goodness"...  Every one I have ever picked up has been better than I expected. 
I used to see a guy out at the range every couple of weeks... he introduced me to Meopta.  He replaced every scope he had with Meopta... (Leupold)... last time I saw him, which was sometime back, the count was 9.  I got to shoot with a lot of different Meopta scopes before I ever got one... it was a real treat. 
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 6, 2014, 2:39 am
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Author: Rancid Coolaid
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/06/2014 at 10:39

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

RC, just a question… you ever hunted in "The Big Thicket"???  Sounds kind of like what you were describing.  I have not been there in a long time… I, personally, have never hunted the "Thicket" with a scope… and I fully agree that in those types of conditions, a smaller footprint scope would be HIGHLY desirable...
I had to look that one up!
 
The place I hunt is outside of Laredo, near the Callahan Ranch.  With the rain they've had this year, it was thick, thick, thick!  Everything has thorns, grows like crazy when it gets water.
 
I shot a pig last year just before last light, it ran about 20 yards then dropped.  From the road, I could see the pig (I intentionally shot the white spotted one so I could recover it) but I could not get to him.  I considered belly-crawling to get him, but decided against it.  He was the smallest of a pack of about 10 and they were in there with him.  Belly crawling into a 200-pound, pissed off hog in no light: no bueno for caca!
 
It is fun to hunt there, and I have since moved to shooting everything with a 300WM.  The property owner, rightly so, does not appreciate unrecovered game animals.  I am a Barnes TTSX convert, have been since hunting South Africa.
 
Someone having recently resurrected my old 101 thread, it is probably well past time for a "hunting vs. tactical scope" version.
 
I'll get to work on it!
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Rifle Scopes : Night Scope

February 6, 2014, 2:48 am
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Author: Rancid Coolaid
Subject: Night Scope
Posted: February/06/2014 at 10:48

About the best "bang for buck" in that price range is a digital NV scope, like the Pulsar N750 (http://swfa.com/Pulsar-Digisight-N750-Digital-Night-Vision-Riflescope-P64654.aspx)
 
I owned the previous generation N550 and liked it for what it was.  The image quality is quite good, you can record from it (with an external DVR) and it works in full light, which is nice for zeroing.  The negatives: it is gray-scale which really messes with night vision when you come off the scope, it is not a light amplifier like traditional NVs like a PVS14 - so you really need an external IR illuminator, and it is big.
 
In your budget, don't even consider a Gen1 or Gen2 night vision, and stay well away from ATN and the cheap stuff - it will piss you off to no end.
 
My N550 was mounted to an AR10 and it served me well.  I have since moved to a PVS14 with IR laser, it serves me MUCH better, but costs MUCH more.
 
If you want a genuine night vision scope, you need about $2,000 more, then look at gen3 scopes.
 
In terms of night vision, it is better to have nothing (maybe a very good flashlight) than to have bad night vision.
 
Hope that helps.
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Rifle Scopes : Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42

February 6, 2014, 4:59 am
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Author: Son of Ed
Subject: Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42
Posted: February/06/2014 at 12:59

I would keep your scope magnification 4X or 3X on the low end... 
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 6, 2014, 6:15 am
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Author: JGRaider
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/06/2014 at 14:15

RC, have you seen one of those blue indigos down there yet?  
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 6, 2014, 7:51 am
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Author: ccoker
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/06/2014 at 15:51

That is a fun area to hunt...
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Rifle Scopes : Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42

February 6, 2014, 8:25 am
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Author: biggreen747
Subject: Burris fullfield 6.5-20x50 vs Zeiss Terra 4-12X42
Posted: February/06/2014 at 16:25

A good 3-9 would be plenty unless you are hunting very small critters. A Bushnell Elite, Sightron SII Big Sky, Meopta MeoPro, or a Zeiss Conquest off of www.samplelist.com are all very good options. 9x on top is plenty for big game and targets at the ranges you specify and 3x on the bottom is much more versitle for hunting. Of the three listed the 4-12 Terra would be my pick of those but if you really want 12x on top I would go with the 3-12 Sightron Big Sky. I have one on a 25-06 and it works for everything from small varmints to deer and pronghorn at the ranges you list and beyond.

Edited by biggreen747 - 4 hours 50 minutes ago at 18:10
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Rifle Scopes : High End Scope Choice

February 6, 2014, 8:45 am
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Author: Rancid Coolaid
Subject: High End Scope Choice
Posted: February/06/2014 at 16:45

No blue indigos.  At 7-9 feet long, I am glad I have not!
 
Though, a short lesson in evolution, rattlers now don't rattle so much.  If the explosion of pigs in Texas, the pigs are eating all the rattlesnakes they can find - meaning the ones they hear.  The net effect is that the non-rattling rattlers are disproportionally reproducing - meaning quieter killing machines.
 
It is a great area to hunt, big deer!
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