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Rifle Scopes : Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42

December 6, 2013, 3:45 am
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Author: bugsNbows
Subject: Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Posted: December/06/2013 at 11:45

The Z3 you mentioned is one of my all-time favorites. I have had zero low light concerns using it. You may also consider a 2.5-10 X 56 Trijicon Accupoint. I have not used the Meopta you mentioned.
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Rifle Scopes : best $200 3x9x40 scope for deer hunting?

December 6, 2013, 4:43 am
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Author: ugapaul
Subject: best $200 3x9x40 scope for deer hunting?
Posted: December/06/2013 at 12:43

Like the last poster said, the Bushnell Elite is a bit more than the 200.00 level.  With that said, even if I had a budget up to 500.00, I would buy an elite.  I think it is the best scope for the money in this category.

I own a Vortex Viper that is not as good as the Elite in terms of resolution or light transmission.  You mentioned the Diamondback, which is a step down from the Viper.

I think many people shy away from the Bushnell name, but again, I think it beats the snot out of anything under 500.00 and costs less than 300.00.
 
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Rifle Scopes : Scope for AR10 - SWFA, Vortex or something else

December 6, 2013, 7:52 am
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Author: Marine24
Subject: Scope for AR10 - SWFA, Vortex or something else
Posted: December/06/2013 at 15:52

Ditto on the SWFA SS 1-6x.  I've used the Viper PST, and while I decent scope, not on par with the SWFA.

Ended up going with a SWFA 5-20X on my LR-308.  It is a SASS variant and intended to be my 600+ yard rifle.

Moved the SWFA 1-6x to my SPR AR and have no issues ringing steel at 600 yards.
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Rifle Scopes : Scope for AR10 - SWFA, Vortex or something else

December 6, 2013, 1:49 pm
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Author: Urimaginaryfrnd
Subject: Scope for AR10 - SWFA, Vortex or something else
Posted: December/06/2013 at 21:49

SS
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Rifle Scopes : Scope for AR10 - SWFA, Vortex or something else

December 6, 2013, 3:09 pm
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Author: jonoMT
Subject: Scope for AR10 - SWFA, Vortex or something else
Posted: December/06/2013 at 23:09

I found because of the reticle design that I like the SS 1-6 either at 1 (very cool to have a zero-magnification view at close ranges) or at 5-6 but not in between. The donut can be distracting. While it's not fashionable, a good scope to consider for a .308 AR is the SS 3-9 or the SS 3-15. Either...with the even less fashionable (for an AR) fixed rings like Seekins .82" lows offered me the best cheek weld (using a Magpul CTR) that I've ever gotten without resorting to an adjustable cheek piece.
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Rifle Scopes : A Good traditional base for high recoil

December 7, 2013, 1:44 am
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Author: Oldtrader3
Subject: A Good traditional base for high recoil
Posted: December/07/2013 at 09:44

I run Talley bases and TPS steel rings.  They are traditional base and rings but they won't move! I had them on a Mark V .340 Weatherby for (5) years and they never moved!
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Rifle Scopes : A Good traditional base for high recoil

December 7, 2013, 2:32 am
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Author: cowski
Subject: A Good traditional base for high recoil
Posted: December/07/2013 at 10:32

i have a game reaper one piece scope mount.it looks solid to me.
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Rifle Scopes : Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42

December 7, 2013, 5:19 am
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Author: Robster80
Subject: Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Posted: December/07/2013 at 13:19

u mean the 3-12x56 meostar? i hav one with illum reticle. love it. big view and very clear
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Rifle Scopes : ZEISS CONQUEST BIG F.....ISSUE :(

December 7, 2013, 5:39 am
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Author: eclipse71
Subject: ZEISS CONQUEST BIG F.....ISSUE :(
Posted: December/07/2013 at 13:39

Good Day,
One of your recommendation was to get a spare scope.
I did better; A Spare rifle/scope.


My Main rifle is a Savage Axis Youth 243, I LOVE this rifle.
So, I bought another one, and put a Nikon Buckmaster on it.
I ordered a Camo Dipping kit in Muddy Girl,
and: Voila !
What do you think of the final result ?

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Rifle Scopes : ZEISS CONQUEST BIG F.....ISSUE :(

December 7, 2013, 5:45 am
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Author: mike650
Subject: ZEISS CONQUEST BIG F.....ISSUE :(
Posted: December/07/2013 at 13:45

Looking good, it definitely goes with your finger nail polish.  Big Smile
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Rifle Scopes : Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42

December 7, 2013, 7:34 am
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Author: eas
Subject: Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Posted: December/07/2013 at 15:34

I have several Z3's and couldn't be happier with them (including low light). I have only one MeoStar but it isn't the 56mm. I am very happy with it as well but I think my Z3's are a little better optically (for my eyes that is) and VERY lightweight. For a hunting scope the Z3 is hard to beat period. Now if you want the illuminated MeoStar that is a different story. Both are very good scopes but the Z3 is the scope I always go back to because of the glass, low weight and compact size. Oh and the Z3 is very good with light transmission as well. Good luck with your decision.
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Rifle Scopes : Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42

December 7, 2013, 7:48 am
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Author: mike650
Subject: Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Posted: December/07/2013 at 15:48

A 56mm bell should out dual a 42mm for gathering light in low light situations. If you want it strictly for low light hunting get the 56mm, it you want an all around performing scope get the 42mm.
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Rifle Scopes : Steiner Predator Xtreme

December 7, 2013, 1:55 pm
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Author: Opticsinitiate7
Subject: Steiner Predator Xtreme
Posted: December/07/2013 at 21:55

About the only complaint I can come up with for the 2.5-10 Predator is that when set on 10, the eye box is not forgiving.  On lower settings, even 8-9, it's pretty good, and on 2.5-6-7, it's extremely forgiving.  HUGE eye relief--- 4-5 inches.  

BIG bright beautiful image, feels like you could run over it with a tank.  Edge to edge clarity.   Beats the Vortex Diamondback in low light, but I don't have anything high end to compare it too.  

When it gets to be low light, the image through the scope is brighter than my naked eye ,and I can see details that I cannot otherwise see without the scope.  Is that good, or about average?  I don't have much experience with optics....
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Rifle Scopes : Steiner Predator Xtreme

December 7, 2013, 11:55 pm
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Author: M48scout
Subject: Steiner Predator Xtreme
Posted: December/08/2013 at 07:55

The fact that locations downrange are perceived "brighter" than your naked eye during very low light conditions is normal in my experience for quality optics.  I think that most good scopes will give you this effect to some degree or another.  The only way you can really compare low light coatings and associated low light performance is a side by side comparison with other scopes. 

My Leupold 3.5-10 x 40mm VX-3 does the same thing, and I consider it a good scope ...... but it gives out before my 8x56 Docter binoculars.  They provide MANY more minutes of observation.  Of course I can't ever expect a rifle scope to match the low light performance of top quality, large exit pupil, binoculars like the Docters, but I am trying to work toward getting closer. 

I'm hoping that tahqua will include some commentary on this when he posts his thoughts on the scope.

I'm waiting on my 3-12 X 56mm Predator Xtreme right now.  I bought it explicitly for low light performance, so I have high hopes along the same lines you are mentioning.  It may not be equal to top Zeiss models, etc, but if it can obtain 90%-95% of the low light capability they have for the deal I just paid ... I'll be pretty happy.

David
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Rifle Scopes : Steiner Predator Xtreme

December 8, 2013, 12:57 am
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Author: budperm
Subject: Steiner Predator Xtreme
Posted: December/08/2013 at 08:57

Good luck with that!  At least you know what you want and what to look for.  So many of us don't...
 
This forum is a fantastic knowledge base because of all the members expertise and experience and their willingness to share their love, know and passion with others.  We are lucky enough to have  Optics Engineers, Ex-military specialists from snipers to individuals in the top ranks of DOD, excellent gunsmiths, professional hunters, really, people from all walks of life that share a passion for all things hunting and or shooting.
 
 So I see that both Op7 and M48 are new to posting here and bid you welcome to the OT! Howdy
WE have SEVERAL engineer members that will happily break something down for you in clear concise details for you.  Ilya Koshkin is a top notch Optics Engineer that evaluates all types of optics and professionally evaluates optics for several manufactures.  His professional evaluations are extremely detailed, objective and universally respected by the industry...and us!!!
 
SO I invite you to surf around the forum there is tons of info to absorb and always somebody to explain or debate a point, concept and or functional design.
 
SO again WELCOME TO THE OT!!! Hope you like it and stick around! Howdy
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Rifle Scopes : Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42

December 8, 2013, 1:20 am
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Author: bugsNbows
Subject: Meostar 2.5-12x56 or Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Posted: December/08/2013 at 09:20

Originally posted by Robster80 Robster80 wrote:

u mean the 3-12x56 meostar? i hav one with illum reticle. love it. big view and very clear


Nope, Trijicon Accupoint. No batteries required.
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Rifle Scopes : ZEISS CONQUEST BIG F.....ISSUE :(

December 8, 2013, 1:22 am
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Author: bugsNbows
Subject: ZEISS CONQUEST BIG F.....ISSUE :(
Posted: December/08/2013 at 09:22

Looks good to me ... but what matters most is what you like / want. Good luck!
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Rifle Scopes : Which Illuminated Reticle Scope

December 8, 2013, 3:02 am
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Author: Mojo
Subject: Which Illuminated Reticle Scope
Posted: December/08/2013 at 11:02

Looking for my first illuminated reticle scope. I have narrowed down to three:

Kahles KXi 3.5-10X50 1"tube, 4 Dot
IOR Valdata 2.5-10X50 30 M&M tube
Zeiss Duralyt 3-12X50 30mm tube, number 60

I am aware of the shortcoming of the Kahles which has the 50mm objective, but only a 1" tube. The IOR has the battery located on the wrong side of the scope for a lefty like me. The Zeiss has soft edges (from someone I respect) and issues at low power settings. The Zeiss reticle is fine.

I am also aware of the Victory Diavari on the Sample List, but not sure I want to go to that price level.

Choices, choices! Which one? I am leaning toward the Zeiss right now.
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Rifle Scopes : Which Illuminated Reticle Scope

December 8, 2013, 4:25 am
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Author: mike650
Subject: Which Illuminated Reticle Scope
Posted: December/08/2013 at 12:25

Mojo, wow, long time man!
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Rifle Scopes : Which Illuminated Reticle Scope

December 8, 2013, 4:29 am
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Author: Mojo
Subject: Which Illuminated Reticle Scope
Posted: December/08/2013 at 12:29

that would be me! Still alive!
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